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Comment by Zak | original | The MacBook Pro's OLED PWM Problem: When a 'Better' Display Becomes Worse to Use
[−]Zak · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:31 UTC · link
I'm surprised by Apple putting out a laptop display with slow PWM. That's the kind of detail Apple has a reputation for paying attention to when other companies don't.
[−]dotancohen · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:38 UTC · link
240 Hz is not considered slow. It is too slow for many people, but it is not in the "slow" range of brightness PWM.
[−]Zak · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:42 UTC · link
As a flashlight reviewer, I consider any PWM I can see by waving my hand in front of a light source (i.e. less than kHz) slow. Perhaps others use a different scale.
[−]gnopgnip · 2026-11-15 Sun 17:46 UTC · link
It’s not 240hz. Compare it to another screen with 240hz pwm and wave your hand in front
[−]andix · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:39 UTC · link
Apple in 2026 is just like any other manufacturer. They don't care about excellency anymore, the products just need to look good in ads and sell for a high price.
[−]Danox · 2026-11-15 Sun 17:03 UTC · link
So that’s why Apple continued to offer 5K and 6K monitors which aren’t cheap, are and are the best you can get other than getting a professional production grade type monitor, which by the way cost a ton more, and most people can’t afford them.

The frequency is the frequency. If you have a problem with it, it’s your bad luck because the frequency over the years has been somewhere between 30hz and 120hz thru the years depending upon the use case.

[−]andix · 2026-11-15 Sun 17:15 UTC · link
PWM on LCD backlights usually doesn't flicker at all. It's smoothed to reduce the flicker to very low intensity. Which makes the frequency nearly irrelevant.

Apple still making some good products also doesn't disprove my statement.

[−]layer8 · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:56 UTC · link
I wonder if there is a trade-off with power usage.
[−]cherioo · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:57 UTC · link
Apple has been using low PWM screen for nearly a decade on iphone and ipad now. There’s just been limited demand to improve this in the market outside of china.

There’s also trade off to high pwm, usually worse color accuracy. But at least give us a toggle!

[−]wolvoleo · 2026-11-15 Sun 19:00 UTC · link
It's very strange because Chinese brands all do this very well