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Comment by GMoromisato | original | SpaceX catches the Starship to end Flight 15
[−]GMoromisato · 2026-11-15 Sun 01:08 UTC · link
Normalization of deviance happened because there was so much deviance!

The number of Criticality 1 issues on STS was incredible--literally thousands. Booster seal--yup, they knew about that; foam strikes? check; also turbine blade cracks, reaction control short-circuits, and hundreds of other problems.

They couldn't fix them because (a) the design was locked--they weren't building more orbiters, and (b) Congress controlled the budget and the Shuttle was not a priority.

The point of Starship is to build enough ships and fly enough missions that problems get fixed. And since losing a ship costs the company money, they have a strong incentive to fix the problems. That's exactly what they've done with Falcon 9, and the result speaks for itself.

[−]dlcarrier · 2026-11-15 Sun 05:12 UTC · link
It's more egregious than just knowing there were flaws. After Morton Thiokol engineers, the manufacturer of the boosters that failed in the Challenger disaster gave a no-go for the flight, because the temperature was too low, NASA administrators cold called a bunch of Morton Thiokol employees that weren't qualified to give go/no-go decisions, and most of them declined, until they found one that gave into pressure and gave a 'go' for launch.

They actively forced deviance.

For more details, check out Truth, Lies, and O-Rings by Allan J. McDonald, James R. Hansen, and Jonathan Yen