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Comment by LorenPechtel | original | SpaceX catches the Starship to end Flight 15
[−]LorenPechtel · 2026-11-15 Sun 00:46 UTC · link
The solids were not a fundamental problem.

Challenger blew because the joint was designed to always be in compression--but it went into tension during the twang. After the headlines they paid attention and fixed it.

[−]jiggawatts · 2026-11-15 Sun 01:54 UTC · link
Congress insisted on the boosters to be made in other districts distant from the launch sites, so they were forced to make them in segments instead of a single continuous tube welded together permanently.
[−]GMoromisato · 2026-11-15 Sun 02:13 UTC · link
The risky thing about solids is that you cannot abort them. Once they light, there is no turning them off.

Shuttle always started the main engines for a few seconds (wasting fuel) to make sure the engines worked before lighting the solids. But there were many engine-out scenarios after the solids were lit that would result in loss-of-crew.

[−]m4rtink · 2026-11-15 Sun 15:22 UTC · link
There are some ways of turning off solid motors - you cen blow off side panels to drop the pressure inside and either stop combustion or make the thrust negligible.

But tjis was IIRC used on single stick ICBMs and won't be really applicable for anything more delicate.

[−]LorenPechtel · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:45 UTC · link
Solids or no, there were a lot of engine-out scenarios that would cause loss of crew. There were substantial parts of the flight where the orbiter wouldn't have the energy to reach a runway.

And the whole dispersed engine system of the Shuttle made any sort of engine out quite dangerous due to imbalanced thrust. When the engines are all right next to each other it's much more resilient against the failure of one, but the Shuttle would be in trouble if it lost any of it's three legs.

[−]summa_tech · 2026-11-15 Sun 15:04 UTC · link
I'm not a huge fan of perchlorate based mixtures like the SRBs. Perchlorate ion is kind of interesting in that it behaves a bit, but not exactly, like iodine. Biochemically, it means thyroid attempts to process it like iodine but fails. In adults that's reversible, but in children it can cause permanent developmental issues.

Incidentally, presence of perchlorates is also one of the main concerns with martian soil.

At least a hydrogen or methane explosion is quite clean, even cleaner than kerosene.