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Comment by proxyscore | original | SpaceX catches the Starship to end Flight 15
[−]proxyscore · 2026-11-14 Sat 22:55 UTC · link
This changes nothing, in space fuel transfer between ships is the make it or break it.
[−]lfuller · 2026-11-14 Sat 22:57 UTC · link
Even without enabling missions requiring refuelling this is still a huge step change in orbital capabilities.
[−]modeless · 2026-11-14 Sat 22:59 UTC · link
Fuel transfer seems like a trivial problem next to the reusable heat shield. And even if for some weird reason it never works, the program could likely pay for itself just launching Starlink/Starshield with full reuse.
[−]vl · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:20 UTC · link
Or use SuperHeavy to launch non-reusable second stage and fueled Moon module of different design. After all SuperHeavy doesn’t have to be used exclusively for Starship.
[−]lsllc · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:25 UTC · link
I don't know -- that fuel transfer scene in Armageddon was pretty sketchy!
[−]ericcumbee · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:01 UTC · link
plenty of use cases were fuel transfer is not needed.
[−]Tepix · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:02 UTC · link
Fuel transfer isn't needed to launch to LEO at much lower cost.
[−]firesteelrain · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:11 UTC · link
It’s needed to go to the Moon based on the current Artemis design
[−]sroussey · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:21 UTC · link
Which is of secondary concern. SpaceX makes money on Starlink, not launches.
[−]mathgeek · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:41 UTC · link
This depends on what you're considering to be the main goal of Starship. Both of you are correct that Starship's stated goals included what you're considering the goal.
[−]pfdietz · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:37 UTC · link
If the simple industrial process of pumping liquid from one tank to another is too difficult, one wonders exactly what sort of society anyone could imagine building in space.

The main reason fuel depots and fuel transfer were disparaged was to protect the gravy train of SLS. But that's essentially over.

[−]TeMPOraL · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:56 UTC · link
Nothing is simple in zero g. All our industrial processes have baked in assumption about gravity (and most also about the composition and pressure of surrounding air).
[−]motionlessveloc · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:13 UTC · link
Only for going to the Moon or Mars. As a launch system, Starship will still be a phenomenal success even if they struggle with fuel transfer, which is really an entirely different problem.
[−]matheusmoreira · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:18 UTC · link
Orbital refueling seems like a small problem compared to a reusable starship.
[−]small_model · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:20 UTC · link
No really it can now launch 20x the Starlinks per flight and StarMind is possible now economically.
[−]kortilla · 2026-11-14 Sat 23:31 UTC · link
It changes cost to put up satellites, which is very significant.

It might not change much for mars