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[−]anonym29 · 2026-11-14 Sat 18:29 UTC · link
>I can't state my disdain enough for the rabid, careless advancement of AI, and all the bros that keep telling me to catch up or fall behind, while they are actively causing harm to the hundreds of thousands, or millions of users they have, without care or consideration.

Have you ever considered that the people who are pro-AI are not a monolith, and that it can be simultaneously true that you should absolutely be learning how to effectively and safely use LLMs in engineering workflows, while it is also true that there are people who are using them very unsafely?

Beig opposed to learning how to use AI correctly because some people use it recklessly is like being opposed to learning AWS in 2015 because some people left sensitive data in open S3 buckets.

Do not confuse negligent misuse of the tool for the value proposition of the tool itself.

[−]birdsongs · 2026-11-14 Sat 18:40 UTC · link
Re-read my post before quoting it and getting defensive. I'm not anti-AI, I use Claude daily, partly because that's all the industry is now, partly because it can be an amazing tool.

I'm furious about slop-shovelling profit-driven development that actively causes harm to people. And the lack of care for, or outright disdain of customers, specifically fuelled by a misuse of AI, and the people telling me to get used to this, the people telling me to stop reading my own PRs, the people telling me this is just how it is now. When we all know that doesn't have to be true.

[−]beardbandit · 2026-11-14 Sat 20:36 UTC · link
Just bide your time until there are some absolutely catastrophic breaches like what is happening in Japan right now on a daily basis, and then people and legislators will slowly start demanding accountability.

I just don't see any grassroots movement advocating for responsible software development winning out with a demographic that can't even unionize for their own self benefit.

There is no part of me that believes people will fundamentally do the right thing without an incentive to do so (money) or punishment (fines, jail). There won't be action until there is so much suffering that governments can no longer ignore it.

[−]birdsongs · 2026-11-14 Sat 20:43 UTC · link
Yeah, makes sense.

Only counterpoint is we have very well functioning unions in Norway for engineers.

But yeah, I don't see grassroots movements winning anywhere. Not even here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Society_of_Engineers...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tekna_(Norway)