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Comment by iririririr | original | Creepy Crawlies
[−]iririririr · 2026-08-30 Sun 16:07 UTC · link
do not fall for cloudflare marketing.

they have one of the worst bot detection in the industry. but because everyone uses them, their huge false positive numbers won't show up anywhere.

[−]TZubiri · 2026-08-30 Sun 16:40 UTC · link
There's a winner takes all (monopoly) dynamic, if everyone uses your product, you can share the ip banlists between customers.
[−]1oooqooq · 2026-08-30 Sun 17:16 UTC · link
See, this is you falling for their marketing.

It makes sense doesn't it? If you own all the pipes, you can effectively block bad actors. But in reality what they do is to just block everyone who blocks advertising tracking and profiling tech (such as canvas fingerprint etc)... and because all vendors use cf, they all block those same clients, and they think there's some winner takes all magic happening with finely tuned blocklists. Don't fall for the marketing!

Try it yourself. Block those fingerprinting tech and try to access their own user forum. you get blocked. Now allow fingerprinting (even if emulated in a headless chrome!) and access by the most toxic vpn you can think off, access granted.

All cloudflare does is act like a gatekeep for monetizable-by-creepy-advertising-networks traffic, not bots. If the bots pay the small headless chrome tax, you get bombarded with their requests just fine.

[−]Demiurge · 2026-08-30 Sun 17:22 UTC · link
What would you suggest as an alternative? Block the bots yourself ?
[−]realusername · 2026-08-30 Sun 17:27 UTC · link
For bots, usually a monopoly just paints a bigger target on your back than custom low scale prevention methods.

And Cloudflare is no exception, the "hello world" of bots is Cloudflare bypass.

[−]timpera · 2026-08-30 Sun 16:56 UTC · link
Cloudflare is also great at playing both sides, and they're trying pretty hard to push for pay-to-crawl because they'll probably get a 30% cut along the way.
[−]Demiurge · 2026-08-30 Sun 17:04 UTC · link
That’s definitely pretty annoying, it’s almost like the walled gardens scenario. I wish this could be more democratized.