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Comment by dofm | original | Brits would quite like their private messages to stay private
[−]dofm · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:08 UTC · link
> In the US we have tech companies complying with sketchy DHS subpoenas that don’t require warrants. We have DoJ targeting political enemies. We have FISA mass surveillance.

You also have a president who has just said he will "report" a journalist to the FCC for "rebuke or punishment".

I regret to inform people that fear over people cracking your encryption is quite niche, at this point; you have a looming fascist regime and should be more afraid of the $5 wrench.

[−]tetris11 · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:14 UTC · link
> $5 wrench

Ref for anyone looking: https://xkcd.com/538/

[−]SOLAR_FIELDS · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:18 UTC · link
$5 wrench already in play, US citizen was detained at the border recently for simply wiping their phone
[−]mc32 · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:24 UTC · link
"What, like with a cloth or something?"

Destruction of potential evidence of a crime is a crime. Obviously here there is nuance and the courts can determine if this is the right interpretation or not. If he had compromising information and he reasonable suspicion he’d be asked to unlock his phone he should have “wiped” it way before he got to the border.

[−]parineum · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:35 UTC · link
Destruction of evidence is a crime.

They'd have to prove there was evidence.

[−]mc32 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:27 UTC · link
Yes, they would have to prove that there was incriminating data on the phone. However, destroying potential evidence before there is suspicion of a crime is also a crime if done with intent to undermine a future investigation.

It's quite unadvisable to destroy data in front of any sort of law enforcement. Last ditch effort? Sure, you better your odds but it's not ideal. If you have evidence of a crime, you know, wipe it way before you need to hand things over for examination and be in the position of having to destroy data as they knock on your door.

[−]ryandrake · 2026-08-30 Sun 16:02 UTC · link
You keep saying "potential evidence." What does that even mean? If I factory reset my phone right now, am I guilty of destroying "potential evidence?" Do you have "potential evidence" on any of your devices? Let's not make up phrases to help justify what they were doing. There was either an actual crime committed, and wiping the phone destroyed real evidence. Or there was not. You can't just consider all data everywhere to be "potential evidence" while you look around for some kind of crime that it's evidence of.

If it was evidence, what was the crime?

[−]semiquaver · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:54 UTC · link
I’ll have you know that due to inflation $5 is no longer a reasonable price even for a very cheap wrench!
[−]dofm · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:02 UTC · link
Tariffs on imported steel products. Perhaps the most ironic adversary of the $5 wrench strategy.
[−]iso1631 · 2026-08-30 Sun 16:12 UTC · link
It's the government, I'm sure the wrench will cost $50,000 and some oligarch will be taking 99% of that as a back hander.