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Comment by dgoldstein0 | original | California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
[−]dgoldstein0 · 2026-08-30 Sun 07:38 UTC · link
It sounds like since Android is a commercial repackaging of Linux it's in scope and Google gets to figure it out.
[−]vbezhenar · 2026-08-30 Sun 08:42 UTC · link
Google literally backed and supported this law.
[−]torginus · 2026-08-30 Sun 13:46 UTC · link
Androi might be legally exempt, but the Android phone you buy at the store with a locked bootloader technically won't be.
[−]bee_rider · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:47 UTC · link
The article says

> These amendments redefine the term “operating system provider” to exclude any person or entity that distributes an OS or application “under license terms that permit a recipient to copy, redistribute, and modify the software.” Any software distributed under the GPL, MIT, BSD, and Apache licenses satisfies that test, which removes the likes of Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, and the BSD family from AB 1856’s scope. […]

> Windows, macOS, iOS, and Android remain fully in scope, with age collection required at account setup from January 1, 2027. A later July 1, 2027, deadline applies to devices set up before January 1. Whether SteamOS is in scope isn’t yet clear: its Arch-based system components are open source, but Valve distributes the image alongside the proprietary Steam client.

I’m slightly confused about Android, I thought Android the OS was open source but then enough functionality is added by Google’s app store to keep it sort of under their control for the most part…

[−]tga_d · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:54 UTC · link
There is an open source version of Android released by Google (AOSP), but it's mostly permissively licensed (pretty much everything except the kernel), and the versions of Android that ship with nearly all devices (even Pixel devices) have modifications that are not open source. It's not just the app store, it's the actual services exposed as APIs. Thus, projects like Lineage and Graphene not being subject, but Google and Samsung still are.

The reason Steam OS is a gray area is the question of what constitutes "the OS". For Android, you can't run apps without the components in question, so it's pretty cut and dry. Steam OS, you can technically use it without Steam: switch it to desktop mode, disable Steam, and run it as just an Arch variant; you can even launch games installed via Steam if you really want. But in practice nobody does that, because you would just use another distro if that was your goal. So, is Steam part of "the OS", since it's the main thing you see when you boot by default, and probably the reason you use that distro? Or is it just a prominently featured application?

edit to add: Here's a graphic depicting the general shape of Android. Pretty much everything except the kernel can have closed source modifications (and even the kernel will typically have proprietary drivers and firmware blobs): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/AOSP_And...

[−]jasomill · 2026-08-30 Sun 16:42 UTC · link
On the other hand, this law doesn't require "age verification" beyond requiring users to supply their date of birth before displaying content deemed only appropriate for users over a certain age, and the Steam application already does this.

So the only thing that Valve needs to change is to record the user's (unverified) answer in their account, which would arguably be more of a quality of life feature than a privacy bug.