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[−]vasco · 2026-08-30 Sun 06:08 UTC · link
As long as there's enough of them with different goals it doesn't matter, they'll keep each other in check. The worlds resources are already handed over to the worst people and we're still doing fine and none of the billionaires are "aligned with society". They just align with their own belly but because they want different things it all kinda works.
[−]sujzhsbnwjek · 2026-08-30 Sun 06:34 UTC · link
These “worst people” need you. They physically need you alive to perform labor for them and to give them money (and status).

That’s the reason we are “doing fine”. Once they stop needing you..

Also, both our comments brush over the generational struggles for fairness over the centuries. We have fought to be “fine”, it did not just happen. Without fairness being introduced by force you and I would be slaving away in some sweatshop getting paid nickels as was the norm not so long ago.

Edit: That’s also assuming you are Caucasian. If you are of a different ethnicity.. well, historically, all bets are off. You could also be the literal possession of some of these “worst people” with not even your own children considered yours.

[−]vasco · 2026-08-30 Sun 07:18 UTC · link
My only point is in a many agent system with different goals it "doesn't matter" that some agents have bad goals as long as there's enough variability of goals and resources that they can't put their vision in place.
[−]zhahhshsj · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:50 UTC · link
I know but that is just .. not how it works. Humans don’t align on just about anything but they will do tremendous mindboggling amounts of harm if not checked by mountains of checks and balances. Sheer variety alone is not a guarantee of anything.

Many types of Hitler does not make for a peaceful world all of sudden through sheer competition. It sounds nice but it will lead to certain hell.