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Comment by fwipsy | original | Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 
[−]fwipsy · 2026-07-02 Thu 05:37 UTC · link
If someone refuses a vaccine and then passes on a virus to someone else, who dies, isn't that morally equivalent to "forcing" a vaccine on someone, who then dies? Your argument seems to be "people who choose to put others at risk, should be prevented from doing so." This seems like a much stronger argument in favor of requiring unvaccinated people to stay home rather than putting others at risk?

Every death is a tragedy. Harm to one person is not fungible with benefit to another. You can't subtract one from five to get four net lives saved, but you can say that five is more than one. If someone pulls the lever then they have murdered one person and saved five. If someone wants to pull it and I stop them, haven't I murdered five people and saved one?

[−]LMYahooTFY · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:21 UTC · link
No, it's not morally equivalent, as one of these is very obviously unintentional and a result of simply living one's normal life, and the other is neither of those things.

It's also somewhat irrelevant since the vaccines do not prevent transmission. At best they lower the chance to some degree and now you're in the weeds of trying to measure something that's too multivariate to measure.

[−]auggierose · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:30 UTC · link
I wish there was a vaccine against opinions like yours. Yes, I would make it mandatory.
[−]Markoff · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:30 UTC · link
Except COVID "vaccines" did not prevent infecting yourself or someone else, are there still people believing this nonsense? This "vaccine" at best protects you if you are old at risk and it's not good even at doing that comparable with those flu "vaccines".
[−]thiht · 2026-07-02 Thu 07:51 UTC · link
Not sure why you're using quotes, it IS a legitimate vaccine. Care to elaborate?
[−]BoingBoomTschak · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:42 UTC · link
> If someone refuses a vaccine and then passes on a virus to someone else, who dies

Why wasn't that other person vaccinated?

[−]koonsolo · 2026-07-02 Thu 08:04 UTC · link
Some people can't take vaccines because of allergic reactions. Other people have weakened immune systems and so the effect of vaccines is low.

For those people, it's the group that protects them. But of course you always have selfish pricks that only care about themselves. It was nice to see the amount of selfish pricks was pretty low in my region, and we got about a 80% vaccination rate.