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Comment by ifwinterco | original | Why jet engines aren't made in China
[−]ifwinterco · 2026-07-02 Thu 05:26 UTC · link
If you want to sell commercial jets to anyone who isn’t Chinese, 20Y old engines aren’t good enough because modern engines are slightly more fuel efficient.

The difference isn’t huge (I think it’s 10-20% or something), but when fuel is your main cost that’s enough to make older engines undesirable

[−]FooBarWidget · 2026-07-02 Thu 05:45 UTC · link
What from I understand the issue is mainly service frequency rather than fuel efficiency.

Also, the domestic commercial jet market is still sizable, so excluding the domestic market from analyses is kinda weird.

Finally, lots of countries are spooked by arbitrary US sanctions and want to diversify.

[−]ifwinterco · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:02 UTC · link
Yes I think eventually they will catch up because the Chinese domestic market is big enough to give them a market while they iterate.

With petrol/diesel engines they just gave up and went straight to electric, but there's no viable alternative to jet engines for planes, so they'll put in the work (plus the military incentive running in parallel)

[−]rbanffy · 2026-07-02 Thu 07:59 UTC · link
> no viable alternative to jet engines for planes

No, but regional aviation can be well served by electrification - a jet engine needs to run at a speed it pushed enough air through itself to propel the plane forward, but a turbine feeding a generator that powers a couple electric motors can run at a far more forgiving regime.

As pointed out elsewhere, all it might take is a paradigm shift to unseat the current incumbents.

[−]ralph84 · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:14 UTC · link
The GEnx which powers the 787 is a 20 year-old engine design. There are thousands of jets flying around with 40+ year-old engine designs, especially in operations like charter and cargo where the aircraft spends more time on the ground than in the air. At the right price a 20 year-old design would be quite viable. Which indicates China is much more than a decade behind.
[−]stephen_g · 2026-07-02 Thu 07:16 UTC · link
> The difference isn’t huge (I think it’s 10-20% or something)

A 10-20% reduction in fuel burn is actually considered pretty huge...