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Comment by doginasuit | original | Opening up 'Zero-Knowledge Proof' technology to promote privacy in age assurance
[−]doginasuit · 2026-07-02 Thu 00:55 UTC · link
As a millennial-aged person I saw a fair amount of content I would not want the young people in my life to see, but it's probably not nearly as harmful as the non-age gated content that they will still have access to. There is a lot creepy youtube and tiktok content that isn't off limits but still unhealthy and my younger relatives are fascinated by it.
[−]echelon · 2026-07-02 Thu 01:52 UTC · link
We need to stop this helicopter civilization bullshit.

We're building 1984 to protect from god knows what imaginary harms.

Stop putting plastic wrap around people's freedoms, liberty, and right to privacy.

[−]Gigachad · 2026-07-02 Thu 03:07 UTC · link
The harms of smartphones and social media are about as far from imaginary as it could get. The data is screaming at us.

We will look back at handing kids phones with instagram like giving kids cigarettes and think wtf were we doing.

[−]AngryData · 2026-07-02 Thu 03:50 UTC · link
And I find that harm to be far less than the harm caused by identifying everybody all the time and censoring topics to people based on government provided tokens.
[−]echelon · 2026-07-02 Thu 03:52 UTC · link
Are you sure it's just kids?

In dealing with the ills of social media, you do what you do with every other negative externality - you tax it. At least the parts of it you don't like.

Designing privacy, freedom, and liberty destroying mechanisms is not the way.

Big social wants these regulations to pass so that they can get better identity tracking for ads targeting. To them it doesn't matter if the tech ushers in 1984. It makes them more money.

[−]Gigachad · 2026-07-02 Thu 03:55 UTC · link
It's definitely not just kids. Social media is a lot like meth, we should at a bare minimum stop giving it to kids as soon as possible. And then come to realise it's bad for everyone and should be wound back.
[−]Paracompact · 2026-07-02 Thu 07:12 UTC · link
Their argument would be, "If meth is a negative externality, we should just tax it instead of banning it in stores for kids to buy." Kids may die, but I'm sure with all that extra state revenue we'll get a nice park or museum or kickback to Tesla or something.
[−]bloqs · 2026-07-02 Thu 05:30 UTC · link
I'm not sure I get your arguement here

Are you saying that we should let children smoke and just tax it because its better for their liberty and freedoms?

Or are you saying we should just tax social media for adults but banning it for kids is ok

[−]anonzzzies · 2026-07-02 Thu 07:22 UTC · link
We do that here; heavy tax sigarettes (and booze): both dropped like a lead balloon. So yes, tax it for everyone. Kids cannot pay for sigarettes and most adults don't want to (most vapers I know do it because it costs far less; that should be taxed more too imho). If browsing insta/tiktok costs an euro per hour, let's see how many still do it; I'd say they go bankrupt in a few months. Apparently it was never that interesting.
[−]imjonse · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:04 UTC · link
It's no coincidence cigarettes were named 'torches of freedom' to get women to start paying up for the privilege of using them a hundred years ago.
[−]Balinares · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:19 UTC · link
I have a hunch that the Epstein class is getting increasingly upset about the kids encountering ideas about what ought to be done about the Epstein class, and mostly are keen to see the next generation molded back into good little subservient laborers. It really isn't about the well-being of the kids.
[−]PeterStuer · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:49 UTC · link
"We" are building 1984 to make sure "We" stay in power of our EU Animal Farm.
[−]krige · 2026-07-02 Thu 07:23 UTC · link
EU? It's mostly happening elsewhere though. See: Australia. See: California. See: KIDS act. See: KOSA.

Sounds like denial or tunnel vision.

[−]kentm · 2026-07-02 Thu 05:54 UTC · link
Not that I want my kids looking at porn or violent content, but I’m far more concerned about man-o-sphere influencers than that other stuff.
[−]pphysch · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:01 UTC · link
Manosphere content is toxic and harmful but the hyperviolence and desensitisation of the former should not be downplayed. That's where the mass shooters evidently come from.
[−]nearlyepic · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:16 UTC · link
> That's where the mass shooters evidently come from.

I mean, quite a few have come from proto-manosphere circles, too. Elliot Rodger comes to mind.

[−]Balinares · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:23 UTC · link
A hundred thousand furries consuming unfathomable amounts of porn without shooting up anyone kind of cast doubt about that point.
[−]sciencejerk · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:30 UTC · link
Who is talking about furries? But Tyler James Robinson and Benjamin Jeffrey Smith. I guess that's only 2/100k to your point?
[−]sciencejerk · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:14 UTC · link
I had to Google "man-o-sphere". Is it particularly more dangerous or toxic than other identity-based activist communities? Genuinely curious to know
[−]grey-area · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:34 UTC · link
Yes, a lot of it involves denigrating women and an entitled and very rigid attitude towards the male place in society (alphas etc).

This is incredibly toxic for young men growing up and the women they interact with.

Some of the more prominent proponents are actual pimps (the Tate brothers).

[−]vasco · 2026-07-02 Thu 06:06 UTC · link
If you saw a bunch of it and presumably are fine what does it matter then? Sure it might have been uncomfortable for a few days and you may not have understood right away but so what? That's almost every week as a kid. Seeing some titties is probably the least confusing.
[−]anonzzzies · 2026-07-02 Thu 07:18 UTC · link
Many uncles of friends (or fathers, who knows) had stacks of porn mags we knew where they were as 70s kids. When very young they were icky and after that we took them home. Who cares.