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The Telephone Changed the World (lithub.com)
2026-11-14 Sat | 39 points by NaOH | original
[−]mikestew · 2026-11-15 Sun 14:56 UTC · link
HN title-mangler strikes again:

“How the Telephone Changed the World”

(Though in this rare instance the the title still makes some sense.)

[−]xnx · 2026-11-15 Sun 15:02 UTC · link
This article is part of a press tour for a new book. Another interview here: https://www.npr.org/2026/11/14/nx-s1-6037416/hello-james-gle...

Telegraph seems like the more significant milestone, but putting that in the title of a book wouldn't sell many copies.

[−]z3c0 · 2026-11-15 Sun 15:12 UTC · link
The book seems to be angling more towards the impact of the Bell System and Bell Labs, which could certainly be argued as more impactful than the telegram, even if downstream. AT&T and Verizon both emerged from the Bell Breakup. Western Union still exists, but as a shadow of its Guilded Age self.
[−]smelendez · 2026-11-15 Sun 15:58 UTC · link
Sure, but the telephone came directly to people’s homes and offices and had a huge social and economic impact in its own right.

Which, after all, is why people want to read about it. Most people don’t have much firsthand experience with the telegraph.

[−]LurkandComment · 2026-11-15 Sun 15:34 UTC · link
Read Network Nation: Richard John
[−]smelendez · 2026-11-15 Sun 15:54 UTC · link
Great book. I also like America Calling by Claude Fischer, which calls itself a social history of the phone up to 1940.

The new Gleick book this piece is excerpted from gets the most into the technical aspects, which makes sense given Gleick’s background. There’s also a lot about the patent disputes in the early days of the phone and its impact in its early days on popular culture.

I think there’s still more phone history to be written. I’d like to see a social history of the phone in the period basically from WW II to the iPhone, including unexpected and deviant use of the phone: phone phreaking, prank calls, music over the phone, sex lines, collect calling, right wing voice message lines, phone zap protests, telemarketing, and I’m sure things I don’t even know about. Plus how the rise of technology like cordless phones, extension lines, etc. delivered privacy for phone users in their own homes.

[−]kator · 2026-11-15 Sun 18:26 UTC · link
Sort of related if you want to get a sense for the business side of these things: Cable Cowboy: John Malone and the rise of the modern cable-TV business
[−]paulorlando · 2026-11-15 Sun 16:53 UTC · link
Comparing the US experience with other parts of the world, you see a dramatic difference in the amount of time Americans had to internalize life with the phone. I worked on international VOIP deployments in the late 90s and early 2000s and some of the populations were going from no phone access to first cellphones / very expensive rates to affordable rates, all in a few years.
[−]bonoboTP · 2026-11-15 Sun 18:07 UTC · link
Yes, you don't even have to go to the more remote or significantly developmentally behind countries. In Hungary (in Budapest, not some remote rural place), we didn't have a landline phone up until the mid-to-late 90s. It was not unheard of, just difficult to get, you'd be on the wait list for long. There were street payphones though, so we could call relatives who got theirs earlier. We went from getting our first landline to getting broadband Internet within a single decade (mid 1990s to mid 2000s).
[−]tialaramex · 2026-11-15 Sun 17:04 UTC · link
I have argued elsewhere and at length that what matters isn't the telephone per se but the Public Switched Telephone Network, which I claim is the Second Network (the First being the Universal Postal Union which enables you to send physical mail to arbitrary people in the world, and the Third being the Internet)

The thing these have in common is that they're connecting all the people. There is no intermediary necessary. Probably you won't send a postcard to some child you've never met in Shanghai, make a phone call to a random farmer in Ukraine or use a video chat to call random Venezuelans on the Internet, but you can and that's why these networks are so powerful.

[−]NooneAtAll5 · 2026-11-15 Sun 17:24 UTC · link
I'd argue mobile phones are as important as the other networks you mentioned - instead of finite amount of endpoints, suddenly *everywhere* was in the network
[−]EarlKing · 2026-11-15 Sun 17:28 UTC · link
Well, if we're going to be pedantic, then you should make room for the Telegraph network which served a similar function between the postal and telephone networks (and later the internet) as documented in Tom Sandage's _The Victorian Internet_.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victorian_Internet

[−]tialaramex · 2026-11-15 Sun 18:18 UTC · link
Yeah, no. I have thought about this but the problem is that the lay person cannot use a Telegraph. Yes, of course they can go to an office and send a telegraph message, but that's different because now that's clearly mediated and what I came up with is that the crucial thing is the lack of mediation.

If the UPU begins a thousand years earlier that falls by the same reasoning, a thousand years earlier too many people aren't literate, so they need to have their letter written by someone else, and the recipient must find someone to read it - but by the time of the UPU literacy is widespread.

[−]dsign · 2026-11-15 Sun 18:55 UTC · link
The other day I asked some friends if they had a fixed phone. None of them did. It's something of a pity. The phone we had thirty years ago was a noble beast, but the one we carry today comes with an odd feeling.

The pocket-destroying cellphone I have from my company (which I must carry at all times, because of on-call) comes with spyware, it also comes with a two-factor authentication app that flashes an angry error message because I don't allow notifications. I'm of course exaggerating a little and speaking subjectively, but that phone feels more like a slave collar than something I really want to have around, and the feeling hasn't subsided one bit in the five years I've carried it.

Even with my personal phone (an iphone), things are not much better. It sends who-knows-what-of-my-data to god-knows-where, and of course keeping the radios active for all that chitchat costs battery time. It doesn't allow me to run any custom-made app I may need without paying Apple a hefty developer subscription and getting a Mac. And, ultimately, it's Apple's device, with security functions to protect Apple and to guarantee other companies with apps running in the phone that the device won't really let me if I try to, say, break their DRM.