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2026-08-30 Sun | 179 points by xendo | original
[−]xendo · 2026-08-30 Sun 12:34 UTC · link
I made the site to convince my boss to let me not use AI on Fridays. Hoping to get some noise around it to make him believe it's real.
[−]elliotbnvl · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:27 UTC · link
Upvoting for visibility, not because I agree. This is really disingenuous, and quite a bad idea overall.

I’d make a joke about there not being a word for the reverse of plagiarism, except there is one: lying.

[−]xendo · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:33 UTC · link
Have you read the page? I'm the COE of HTMX. I'm the boss.
[−]Diti · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:48 UTC · link
[−]newswasboring · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:36 UTC · link
Disingenuous? Plagiarism? Care to explain? I dont even understand what you mean by these words in this context.
[−]k4rli · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:29 UTC · link
He was just taking the piss, being both OP and the boss of htmx.
[−]aed · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:45 UTC · link
I hope your boss listens! :)

Giving yourself time to be idle and let a problem marinate is often where the breakthroughs and good ideas come from. If taste and human judgment are what separate useful AI output from slop, we need to give our brains time to cook instead of constantly bouncing between agents.

[−]BrucecarlL · 2026-08-30 Sun 13:06 UTC · link
We need No AI Hours everyday. We need this kind of time every day to clear our minds, reflect on what AI has brought us, and consider whether it's necessary to address the issue of technical debt.
[−]xendo · 2026-08-30 Sun 13:24 UTC · link
100%. Making it a whole day makes it easier to sell and stick to, that's it. It's just brutal to have a whole day when you need to focus and not just mindlessly prompt.
[−]Retr0id · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:19 UTC · link
I let Claude's 5 hour limits do this for me.
[−]knollimar · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:47 UTC · link
I propose 1 session per day and 3 hours to ingest the slurry into your brain
[−]Sindisil · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:10 UTC · link
I support this.

I also support No GenAI every day ending in a Y, but I support this, too.

[−]bingemaker · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:18 UTC · link
This is a great initiative! I'm going to send this to my team, hoping to get some positive response. Maybe we should also have code-we-love :)
[−]sdcfgy · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:21 UTC · link
Got no AI 7 days here. I sold my token budget to other staff and spent the money on beer.
[−]scrollaway · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:46 UTC · link
I guess alcoholism is cooler than using AI to do things nowadays, is that your stance?
[−]valleyer · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:56 UTC · link
One of the strawiest strawmen I've seen in quite some time.
[−]sdcfgy · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:59 UTC · link
Looking at some of the shit I have to deal with, yes it is.

TODO: insert something about open source, beer, free beer, someone else's beer, trading beer, subgenius, slack etc etc

[−]qmmmur · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:14 UTC · link
It absolutely is
[−]sensanaty · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:24 UTC · link
Literally everything and anything on the planet is cooler than AI, yes
[−]misiti3780 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:42 UTC · link
so if you drink beer, you're automatically an alcoholic - I bet you're fun to hang out with
[−]wonnage · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:52 UTC · link
AI is somewhere down there with Covid and Ubisoft, I’m gonna go with yes
[−]dgellow · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:23 UTC · link
I would actually really recommend people who are using coding agents full time to make AI brakes for your weekend projects. Think of it like a small break to take the time to reconnect to the code and keep your brain muscles intact, a bit like a professional cyclist going for a casual ride in the forest to experience what they don’t experience anymore in their professional life.
[−]giancarlostoro · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:30 UTC · link
For me its quite the opposite. My employer is too afraid to commit to any of it. Meanwhile, I've built more stable software for myself and my personal computing needs of higher quality and in faster turnaround times.

I've also seen how insanely good at doing a total rewrite / modernization the models can be.

[−]dgellow · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:36 UTC · link
I specified „people using coding agents full time“
[−]giancarlostoro · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:22 UTC · link
Fully aware, just tired of hearing about AI in extremes. Theres some of us who just want to use it in a useful way.
[−]mapontosevenths · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:28 UTC · link
I see where you're coming from, but I can't help being reminded of my youth when teachers would admonish me "YoU wOn'T aLwaAYs haVe A CalCulator in yOuR poCKet!"

Now the entire world has a calculator in their pocket, and all that wrote memorization not only made me hate math as a child, it was a giant waste of time.

I suspect that one day we'll look back on advice like no-AI Fridays exactly as modern readers would react to "Punch-card only Tuesdays" in a modern enterprise.

[−]dgellow · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:37 UTC · link
More like: take some time without your phone. Something I assume everybody here would agree is a sane thing to do.

Not using a calculator as a kid for math is pretty important, because the goal is to develop intuition. Same for software, playing music, learning a language. You have to keep some level of friction to develop and keep your intuition

[−]alexslobodnik · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:41 UTC · link
I get consistent, though tiny, value from having memorized the multiplication table up to 12.
[−]retsibsi · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:48 UTC · link
> Now the entire world has a calculator in their pocket, and all that wrote memorization not only made me hate math as a child, it was a giant waste of time.

I dunno, I think this example kind of works in the opposite direction. If we're talking about memorising tables of logarithms or something, then yeah that was a complete waste of time. But a lot of the stuff kids would like to skip because calculators can do it is the absolute basics. IMO it is still important to have a solid grasp of arithmetic, useful to have enough trigonometry that you intuitively understand where it can be useful, and so on. (Much more so if you want to leave open the possibility of studying further mathematics.) And for people to whom these things don't come naturally, you really need to drill it a bit in order to develop the conceptual understanding.

I don't know exactly where this does and doesn't apply to programming/CS, though. I would like to think that a lot of the fundamentals will remain useful, but maybe that will only be true for a few specialised workers and self-motivated hobbyists.

[−]QuadmasterXLII · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:51 UTC · link
How much rote memorization did it take to harm you? the addition of 1 digit numbers is kind of mandatory to function in everyday life, the multiplication table is at most (8*9)/2 36 facts.
[−]tyleo · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:27 UTC · link
I find it interesting when people say, “I need time away from the AI to think.” I use AI for development but I would not say I’ve offloaded my thinking to AI. AI is great for pushing text but I haven’t found its system design skills to be that good.

To me the design has always felt like the thinking though.

[−]dgellow · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:43 UTC · link
I felt the same until I actually tried to stop for a week or so. And I could feel the constant temptation and anxiety of not having the coding agents as a sort of safety net. Taking a clean brake made me realize how much I was losing my skills and connection to the actual implementation, not just the high level pieces of it. I also didn’t realize at the time how much of my design thinking is done while working on code, and all the constant small decisions that are actually impactful
[−]a2ff6eeb0 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:28 UTC · link
Why wouldn't you offload your thinking to AI?! That's the entire point of having it!
[−]wonnage · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:57 UTC · link
“I can quit whenever I want” ahh answer
[−]aed · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:33 UTC · link
Oh man, I help host a monthly AI meetup called AI Friday: https://aifri.day

My heart sank when I saw this post. I thought we’d created enemies!

No conflict here, though.

Personal example... A few weeks ago, I realized that with all these agents running and all the things I could be working on, I was spending my days managing shallow pings instead of going deep.

I have AI agents managing SEO and ad spend. I used to spend a little time every day reading what each had to say. Now each gives me one detailed report per week, with links to the underlying reports and specific things I need to look at. I block 90 minutes for each one, on different days, and use that time to go deep. It’s helped a lot.

[−]newswasboring · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:33 UTC · link
Great initiative. I was expecting something like this to happen. I think a good addition to the website can be success stories people share from this approach. Sending a link this to a manager is not very convincing, but managers respond very well to social proof.
[−]Jcampuzano2 · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:40 UTC · link
At the very least, I do encourage people who are working on personal projects for explicitly learning and studying purposes to purposefully not use AI. Of course, if the purpose of the project is to learn AI, then that rule is allowed to be broken.

Anecdotal example but I know plenty of students (Including my own brother) who graduated recently who did it almost entirely with AI (unfortunately at the request of their own professors) who can't answer the most basic of questions that I would have expected of sometimes even first year CS students in the days before AI was a thing, which is why I encourage them to build projects without it.

Personally, I'm starting to think that in university and education systems, all projects should now be done in class and in computer labs/monitored study halls because we can't trust anyone to not use AI anymore.

[−]wkjagt · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:08 UTC · link
I got out of tech about 5 years ago, before AI really took off. I still do a lot of personal projects and now never use AI. I tried it a bit (only free plans) but noticed how much it caused me to no longer be able to think through a solution myself. I thought I was learning a lot from it but for some reason whatever I learned from it didn't stick. So now I'm no longer using it at all. I do realize that this is very specific to my situation of course.
[−]echelon · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:21 UTC · link
I really do not get all of y'all claiming this causes you to "not be able to think".

I worked on six nines active active payments infra that handled billions in daily transaction volume. I've built laser projection systems to play interactive games on skyscrapers. That ability is not atrophying.

I'm able to do 10-20x what I was able to do before AI, and I'm able to work at a breadth, depth, and level of polish that was previously impossible without mastering other diciplines (CSS, design, etc).

With AI, I've built several video games, my own SRS software, my own productivity software, and a business making $5M ARR and growing 70% month on month.

I've now done more hardware projects in the past eight months than I have in the last ten years. I might even start doing physics and bio (I did my undergrad in biochem) if I can find the time.

I'm also back to making movies. I was a major hobbyist filmmaker before the pandemic. I've shot dozens of films. They're extremely logistically complex and take so much time, and I was never capable of working in the high fantasy or sci fi genres I wanted to. Seedance is scratching so many of my itches it isn't even funny. It's like a gift from the gods.

I'm working more now than ever before, and I'm turning those hours of writing pointless glue code or testing new libraries and frameworks into actual productive work. Getting real work done.

2010-2020 felt like tech dystopia to me. Cellphone incrementalism, walled gardens, adtech, crypto, locked down devices. It was a pale shadow of the excitement of the early web. Personal websites, kids making Flash games, the indie web, p2p, people building stuff being 70% of the internet. For the first time in a long time, I feel extremely hopeful about the future and excited to work with tech again.

tl;dr - I can still write in cursive, but it turns out I just don't need to as I write my movie.

I do not get you folks who claim this is bad. This is magical.

[−]brookst · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:34 UTC · link
Hear hear. I do not understand the people who bemoan the loss of slide rules and books of trig tables in the era of graphing calculators.

I’m with you — I’m producing more and better art, with a deeper understanding of the art which comes from scale. My music is more innovative, my simulations are richer and more fun, I can wake up in the morning with a new idea and have a prototype in hours. It is magical.

[−]Jcampuzano2 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:57 UTC · link
Big difference is when you use a calculator or other tools, you still have to interpret and know what to enter.

With modern AI, you basically just ask for something and what used to be days worth of work magically appears, you didn't really think through a single thing when it comes to implementation, architecture etc unless you made a conscious effort to audit that.

We also generally still encourage students to learn how to do certain operations and what they mean without a calculator before letting them rely on it to make things quicker. If you never knew what a sin/cos was you'd never even know when to use those or why they even exist on a calculator.

AI is a step up where you literally don't have to know what those are, you could just take a picture and ask for the solution and it would do that all for you if you let it.

In reality modern AI is a massive test of willpower. You can completely let go of the reigns and it will happily do everything for you.

[−]wkjagt · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:37 UTC · link
I believe you. I'm just telling my own personal experience. What works for you doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? But also: I'm purely doing things for my own pleasure now, so whatever I enjoy more is what I'm free to do. Again though, that's just me.
[−]eudamoniac · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:43 UTC · link
What is this 5M business?
[−]yoyohello13 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:54 UTC · link
Links? What’s the business?
[−]breezybottom · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:55 UTC · link
It sounds like you're experiencing a manic episode.
[−]tempest_ · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:22 UTC · link
Difference between taking your own notes and skimming someone else's.

I have found in the last year I "get more done" but I learn less. Whats even worse is if I burn though my token quota I am less likely(and less able) to "switch to manual". LLMs make an ocean of decisions and assumptions very quickly and if you don't slow it down very intentionally (and lose the promise of the AI providers are pitching) you will quickly not have a good idea of how systems work.

[−]brookst · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:29 UTC · link
It’s funny, I’m the exact opposite. I’ve tackled projects at scales I could never have done before, and learned more than I would have.

My actual coding ability is probably lower, but I’ve learned so much about music theory and production, CAD, and statistics. All because my hobby projects can go so much further than before.

[−]yoyohello13 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:25 UTC · link
There was a well known phenomenon people called ‘tutorial hell’ where when learning to program you could understand all the code from tutorials, but when it came time to actually create your own solutions for stuff you got stuck. I think AI is basically enabling eternal tutorial hell, you never actually need to break out of it anymore.
[−]dom96 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:42 UTC · link
I've been doing this on my latest personal project. What I've realised I missed the most is feeling in the zone or in a "flow" state as some call it. It really feels amazing. Coding agents take that away from you. I really think we need some coding agent implementation which takes less agency away from programmers and helps people be in the flow even more.

For my project I use Gemini/Google's AI mode to great effect. Quick answers to be reminded about syntax, and to get help when stuck. It actually enhances the flow state. Plus it's all free.

[−]KingOfMyRoom · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:56 UTC · link
What do you use to be in the zone? music in the background? What type? Or silence or something else?
[−]ceejayoz · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:58 UTC · link
Eh, experiences will vary. For me, my zone is conducting things, not typing. Firing something off in twelve tabs and coming back later is precisely how my brain works.
[−]praveer13 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:48 UTC · link
For my personal “project” I’ve been using chatgpt to teach me from math (linear algebra) to quantum computing - asked it to create a big list of prompts optimal for single threads, for me to learn with Socratic method. I plan to write my notes as a blog for each thread in my own words. I think this is a good use of AI for personal goals, it’s the best learning experience for me so far. I’ve never been able to focus on lecture videos
[−]StilesCrisis · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:46 UTC · link
My old workplace did the opposite: we had All AI Fridays where you had carte blanche to build out AI tooling or just work on AI stuff as long as it's vaguely related to your job.
[−]luxuryballs · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:46 UTC · link
"Not too much AI" or "Just enough AI" also, if you feel the need for a No AI Friday it could mean you also need to just use less AI, or try to only use it for the correct things so you don't lose visibility, for example don't let it make decisions for you, have it present the decisions.
[−]WD-42 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:06 UTC · link
Choosing from a set of decisions the agent presents you might feel like you are making a decision, but you’ll never make the one that wasn’t presented.
[−]skybrian · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:46 UTC · link
I’m not going to go that far (you do you), but reading the source code seems like a great way to remain in touch with the implementation. On my hobby project, I do a lot of reading code, asking the AI pointed questions about how things work, and asking it to clean up messes.
[−]simonklitj · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:05 UTC · link
So you’re left with the least interesting tasks? Not trying to be too snarky, or too much of a luddite, but that would be a killer for me, motivationally.
[−]bluefirebrand · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:22 UTC · link
> reading the source code seems like a great way to remain in touch with the implementation

Reading code is way less enjoyable than writing it

[−]yipinwong · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:48 UTC · link
This will be the pattern only the "privileged" workers will be able to afford.

Not using AI is similar to giving employees 20% of their time for any non-sprint work.

This privilege of No AI usage a day will lower the productivity, and rarely any companies will allow it (if they track your usage, which I am sure they do)

[−]notarobot123 · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:50 UTC · link
Sounds good. They're encouraging others to join in but it'd be great to hear if this actually has an impact so far and how its worked out for HTMX. I imagine there are some interesting anecdotes about what actually happens when teams do this.

[Edit] just seen that OP is pitching this rather than practicing it. I wonder if any team actually do have a practice like this...

[−]ethagnawl · 2026-08-30 Sun 14:56 UTC · link
Nobody should be in a position where they need to clear something like this with their boss. Now, I'm certain people are but that just means those of us with seniority and in leadership have failed those people.
[−]satnhak · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:03 UTC · link
No thanks
[−]Kuyawa · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:10 UTC · link
AI 24/7

> Study after study shows that using LLMs can cause you to accumulate cognitive debt, make you less engaged with your work, negatively impact your critical thinking abilities, and hamper your skill formation.

False

I've learned more, I am more engaged, it has positively impacted my critical thinking abilities and has increased my skill formation

For me it's AI 24/7 even on sundays

[−]ItsMattyG · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:12 UTC · link
What makes it false?
[−]Barbing · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:14 UTC · link
False based on your sample size of one, (which is fine to share), or you’ve also read this somewhere?

If it’s just your own datapoint, is it difficult to self assess?

[−]afdbcreid · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:24 UTC · link
No, false based on subjective experience on a sample size of one.
[−]yoyohello13 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:32 UTC · link
I guess you’re the exception. Congrats
[−]wonnage · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:57 UTC · link
Those are rookie numbers, once Elon sends my agents to Mars they’ll be doing 40 extra minutes per sol
[−]artur_makly · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:10 UTC · link
Why stop there?!?#NoPhoneWeekends
[−]furyofantares · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:23 UTC · link
I don't know about Fridays but I like spending some significant amount of time full-vibing then some significant amount of time full-manual, coming to terms with what has been done-but-not-pushed, figuring out how I want the code to actually work and look, with roughly zero regard to how much transformation or starting-anew it will take from what has been vibed - easy come, easy go. Then once I really know what exactly I want, either transform the vibed code into it, or delete and start over (maybe manually, maybe prompting).
[−]moomoo11 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:24 UTC · link
cringe
[−]iamleppert · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:26 UTC · link
This is as silly as saying you shouldn’t drive your car on Friday’s and walk to work instead.

Why only Friday? What does “doing things the old way” one day a week prove or benefit when you spend 90% of your time working with AI?

Tech people who have their entire identities wrapped up in being smart or the best engineer in the room have suddenly learned that intelligence is now a commodity and a cheap one at that.

[−]yoyohello13 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:36 UTC · link
Objectively, it actually would be beneficial for most people to walk to work once a week…

Also, being intelligent is still important. Enabling the dumbest people in the room to dump their tidal wave of slop on others isn’t really a positive.

[−]gwbas1c · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:28 UTC · link
The technique I'm following is: If it's easier to explain it to an LLM, have the LLM do it. If it's easier to do it myself, I do it.

This is useful when iterating on UI, where I need to make a few minor changes; or when I need to "explore" to understand how a query or data model needs to work.

Otherwise, I don't need to dedicate a day to doing things by hand; I just do a few things by hand every day.

[−]iAMkenough · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:33 UTC · link
I like this idea. Like "no watering your lawn on Mondays" to conserve water.

Could be another case for four-day work weeks, especially if AI is supposedly improving productivity during those four days a week.

[−]neuroticnews25 · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:35 UTC · link
>write code with your own hands

How is this supposed to work? Like emulate an agent with my brain and write down the output?

[−]xendo · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:38 UTC · link
Just look at the keyboard and sort all characters by how probable you think they are next, type one and start from the beginning.
[−]cj · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:41 UTC · link
And what am I supposed to do when I hit a wall solving a problem? What am I supposed to do, just sleep on it?

Sarcasm aside, I think there's a real phenomenon of AI removing the experience of getting stuck on a problem (where often I'll wake up the next day with a perfect solution in my head ready to implement). The same way social media removed the experience of "being bored".

[−]wonnage · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:49 UTC · link
Do not recommend. There’s this stupid hard limit every day which takes like 8 hours to reset no matter how many tokens you used
[−]avian · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:54 UTC · link
It is provably impossible to write code manually.

It takes an agent on the order of 100 billion operations to produce a single token. A person (generously) taking just a second for a single mental addition or multiplication would take tens of thousands of years to write just a single line of code.

[−]PenguinRevolver · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:37 UTC · link
Some people are gonna take this as a three-day weekend. Pity.
[−]mcdow · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:45 UTC · link
i inadvertently do this at work anyway. i burn through my monthly token budget on boring-but-valuable tasks, and then i spend the rest of the month doing stuff by hand.
[−]Waterluvian · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:48 UTC · link
When I was 9 or 10 I flew somewhere with my family for the first time. On landing, the pilot bounced the plane off the runway. While taxiing he came on the intercom and apologized for the "slightly rough" landing, explaining that they usually use <fragmented memory> some autopilot to land/smooth the landing and that to keep qualified they have to do it manually every so often.

So anyways, I fully embrace and support the idea of bouncing your code off the compiler every Friday. It's what I do and I can really tell those skills need practice even after just a week.

[−]stavros · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:49 UTC · link
Apparently they didn't do it manually often enough, huh.
[−]tokai · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:49 UTC · link
>study after study shows

And its four preprints and one published one with an extremely weak experiment.

But seriously who offloads decision-making to LLMs? Thats the main thing they can't do proper.

[−]Dowwie · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:53 UTC · link
You can choose to not use AI every day. Don't impose your culture on someone else, though.
[−]rodrigosetti · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:55 UTC · link
How about let everyone decide whether they want to use AI or not without any mandate
[−]kstenerud · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:58 UTC · link
Reminds me of when we were admonished to use a "real" compiled language rather than an interpreted, GC'd one, lest we lose our ability to reason about the system.

Which reminds me of when we were admonished to continue using assembly, lest our "real" skills atrophy from too much cushy C development.

Which reminds me of when we were admonished to keep our scope skills sharp, and read and understand the schematics of whatever computer we were on, lest we forget how to diagnose faults in its components.

Which reminds me of when we were admonished to practice calculating in our heads and keeping slide rule skills sharp, lest they atrophy to a calculator.

You don't need to "keep practicing" in order to maintain your understanding.

The best engineers know how our systems work down to more levels, but for average developers producing average software with average impact, average output is acceptable.

[−]speak_plainly · 2026-08-30 Sun 15:58 UTC · link
The cognitive debt accusation is dumb. Implying there is some sort of cognitive deterioration when it is merely a label used by the authors to describe lower cognitive engagement while using AI and some persistence of that lower engagement when returning to the task without it … which is predictably going to be the case when you’re offloading work.

If your plan is to offload a task to AI, do you really need to dedicate your attention to it?